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Cloud computing? It’s not even water vapor yet.

Lawrence Joseph Ellison

Criticizing cloud computing hype, *Financial Times* interview, 2008 · Checked on 4 March 2026
Cloud computing? It’s not even water vapor yet.

Analysis

Ellison’s quip framed cloud computing as purely hypothetical, but by 2008, Amazon Web Services (AWS) had been offering EC2 and S3 for two years, and Salesforce had nearly a decade of SaaS operations. His statement likely aimed to downplay competitors (e.g., AWS) while Oracle lagged in cloud offerings, rather than reflect technical reality. However, mainstream enterprise adoption *was* limited compared to later years, giving his critique partial contextual validity.

Background

In 2008, cloud computing was emerging but not yet dominant; AWS’s revenue was ~$100M (vs. $80B+ in 2023), and terms like 'cloud' were often conflated with utility computing or hosting. Ellison, whose Oracle later pivoted aggressively to cloud, had a vested interest in portraying it as unproven. His remark became infamous as cloud adoption accelerated post-2010.

Verdict summary

While Ellison’s 2008 skepticism reflected early-stage cloud adoption, his dismissal as 'not even water vapor' ignored already operational enterprise cloud services like AWS (launched 2006) and Salesforce (1999).

Sources consulted

— Financial Times (2008). *‘Larry Ellison scorns cloud computing’*. [Archive](https://web.archive.org/web/20081026000000*/http://www.ft.com) (paywall; cited in Wired, 2012).
— Amazon Web Services (2006). *‘AWS Launches EC2 and S3’*. [Press Release](https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2006/).
— Wired (2012). *‘Larry Ellison’s Cloud Flip-Flop’* ([link](https://www.wired.com/2012/10/larry-ellison-cloud/)).
— Salesforce (1999). *‘Company Timeline’*. [Salesforce History](https://www.salesforce.com/company/history/).
— Oracle (2016). *‘Oracle’s Cloud Revenue Surpasses $1B’* ([Investor Relations](https://www.oracle.com/investor/)).